Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:11 Hey everyone, I'm Brian and
Speaker 2 00:00:13 I'm Slippy.
Speaker 1 00:00:14 And this is American Idol. Just kidding. It's actually snorkeling with Narwhals. How was that Slippy?
Speaker 2 00:00:21 That wasn't bad. I haven't, I haven't seen that show in, uh, probably 15 years.
Speaker 1 00:00:27 Let's see. I stopped watching in like 2014. Ran for a couple more years after that. Then it stopped, then it came back. And like, can you tell me who any of the winners in the past 10 years are? Probably not.
Speaker 2 00:00:39 I, I could tell you the judges, the last time I was, I watched the show
Speaker 1 00:00:43 <laugh>. Who was it?
Speaker 2 00:00:44 Simon, Paula, Abdul <laugh> and Randy <laugh>. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:00:50 So it's been quite a while.
Speaker 2 00:00:52 So maybe the first season, I have no idea when it, when those three were on, but
Speaker 1 00:00:56 Yeah, while the last time they were on, yeah, it was like 2008 you said 15 years ago? Yeah, maybe 2007. Yeah. We're not talking about American Idol today. Um, our episode is about the football off season thus far. You know, we call it that because it's a little too late to call it a draft recap or a free agency recap cuz you know, we love to, to delay things. But we are gonna talk specifically about our teams, the Rams and the Steelers, but also generally about the league itself and about some big news that's happened. So, Slippy, I'm gonna start with the Rams who went five and 12 last year. Horrible defense of their Superbowl championship. It went really badly. Um,
Speaker 2 00:01:40 True hangover there.
Speaker 1 00:01:42 Really bad hangover. It's, they literally gave up everything to win that Superbowl and now they have nothing left. So it was worth it. But, you know, there's people like my brother who hasn't seen his team win at Super Bowl in his lifetime. So
Speaker 2 00:01:56 Wait, which team does he follow?
Speaker 1 00:01:58 My brother's a Dolphins fan.
Speaker 2 00:02:00 Oh, the Dolphins. Yeah. You know, they had their day in the sun. Uh, and I actually, they're still in the sun. I hear their stadium stinks to play in. If you're on the other side,
Speaker 1 00:02:12 Probably. I mean, it would just, playing in Miami would not be fun. Like it, I feel like it'd always be hot. It's
Speaker 2 00:02:18 Brutal, but,
Speaker 1 00:02:19 Um, no, so it was worth it. Win the Super Bowl. I've got friends who are Browns fans who have never seen a Super Bowl, who have seen their team move to Baltimore, become the Ravens and win two Super Bowls. Um, so it was worth it. But I will say the Rams lost a lot of people this off season. Um, here's just some of 'em. Odell Beckham, technically we didn't lose him because he was a free agent. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But the last team he had played for was the Rams, uh, Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner. That was a, that failed spectacularly. Aha. Robinson and Greg Gaines, who are defensive tackles, if you didn't know that Taylor Rap. Matt Gay a lot. A lot of people. So I'm like, all right. And I guess they're just preparing to suck this year, which is still quite possible. Like, look, this is who I have listed as newcomers. Brett rip the quarterback and Hunter Long a, a backup tight end we got from the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 00:03:23 Yeah. Who is gonna be throwing the ball for you this year?
Speaker 1 00:03:25 Oh, it's gonna be Stafford <laugh>. It'll be Stafford. You think so? I, I do. Unless he like gets injured again, which he's, it's hit or miss with him. Cause like, he actually, people always seem to think he was super injury pro in Detroit. Like he really wasn't.
Speaker 2 00:03:40 No. He was known for being, I I, so I think it's a mixed bag there. I think he's very durable and he plays through a lot of injuries. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So maybe that's where that comes from. It
Speaker 1 00:03:49 Could be. I mean,
Speaker 2 00:03:50 He, but he didn't miss a lot of time in Detroit.
Speaker 1 00:03:52 I know he did early in his career and I think later in his career, but like overall, he played a lot for Detroit. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Uh, and he played the whole first season with us. But, you know, he's coming off of injuries. I'm, I'm guessing, I'm hoping he'll be fine. Um, if not, we have upgraded the quarterback position with Stetson Bennett, two time national champion from Georgia. I mean, he was only a fourth round pick, so, you know, low risk, high reward, if you wanna look at it that way. But our backups last year were John Wolford, Bryce Perkins and Baker Mayfield, which as you remember, baker Mayfield had the awesome game against the Raiders where he had like signed by, signed the team.
Speaker 2 00:04:39 Like was it his first game?
Speaker 1 00:04:40 Yeah, he signed like two days before. Right. Um, that was pretty much, and then we, we put 50 on the Broncos, but the Broncos were the Broncos. So Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:04:50 They won't be the Broncos again this year, I don't think. I think they'll be the Broncos.
Speaker 1 00:04:56 Hmm.
Speaker 2 00:04:57 Le Bronco.
Speaker 1 00:04:58 Uh, so I don't know about the Broncos this year. And again, neither of us are Broncos fans, so here's a tangent. But, so the Nathaniel Hackett coaching experience was horrible and Russell Wilson was really bad. So if anyone's gonna help him be a better quarterback, again, it's Sean Payton. Um,
Speaker 2 00:05:22 Yes.
Speaker 1 00:05:23 And if that doesn't work, then Rusty might be, uh, running out of time.
Speaker 2 00:05:28 He might be. He's, uh, I, I don't really think he's that bad yet. I think they had a lot of issues from a coaching standpoint last year. I think in the receiver room, I don't really buy that. They had all of these, like number one receivers that people were saying, I mean, I get that they're, you know, maybe they're above average, but there was some turnover in the, uh, running back room and like, they made a lot of strange decisions, in my opinion, on running backs as well. And now you can see where they're, they've landed. And I think Sean Peyton, I mean, I've said before, I think coaches are the primary indicator of, of winning and he's gonna bring it for that team. So
Speaker 1 00:06:14 Yeah, I mean it's, it was definitely worth the, I think they gave up what a first grand pick for him.
Speaker 2 00:06:21 Was it a first? I think you're right. Yeah. And then who knows how much they pay him.
Speaker 1 00:06:24 Yeah. Um, but it was worth it. I mean, literally the only reason Nathaniel Hackett got that job was because they were trying to get Aaron Rogers and he's like Aaron Rogers favorite coordinator for some reason. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, by the way. I hate when amazing quarterbacks like vouch for their coordinators. And then those coordinators get jobs like Hackett with Rogers, uh, Adam Gass got two head coaching jobs cuz Peyton Manning vouched for him it's like, it's Peyton Manning and Aaron Rogers, they could coach themselves.
Speaker 2 00:06:59 Right. I mean if you look at, if you look at what Aaron Rogers did bringing, there's all these memes about him saying, green Bay never gave me weapons. And then he's like, give me all the same weapons. <laugh>. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:07:12 Well, I think, I think what's going on there is he's getting guys who know the way that he plays. He, they know his calls, uh, they know maybe some of the plays that he's written himself, like they have specific roots from him mm-hmm. <affirmative> and all of those things. Even though some of those guys probably won't even start very much this year or the next year, uh, they're gonna be really influential on somebody like Garrett Wilson, uh, who's gonna have to learn very quickly to, you know, catch balls from a new quarterback. So, which he
Speaker 1 00:07:46 Should be fine. He was great last year. I actually had that down. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, yeah, they should have a solid receiver group. Like, like you said, there's Lazar and Randall Cobb who are, uh, two of Roger's like standbys. Like they're not great. I mean, Cobb used to be really good.
Speaker 2 00:08:01 Well, that's, that's right. Yeah. I think Cobb is the, that's the primary indicator to me that Rogers was really looking more for a presence rather than actual like stats. I don't mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I don't think anybody believes Cobb is gonna put up the numbers this year, but he certainly knows the routes and he's right. He's a quick study. Um, and there's a lot of, like in the rookie room, you tend to see a lot of people struggle on the NFL level when they, they may have the natural talent, but if they're not in the right place when the ball's there, they're not gonna be able to fit into the NFL very well. And you see that a lot with, uh, what's the 49ers, uh, coach? Uh, Shanahan. Shanahan, yeah. His calling, you know, it's like almost timed down to the millisecond. You're gonna throw the ball this on this yard line at this exact second mm-hmm. <affirmative> and everything has to sync up and it works
Speaker 1 00:08:57 Well. So they also got me, Cole Hartman who was on the Chiefs who, I mean not great, he underwhelmed with the Chiefs, but you know, whatever, there's, there's talent there. Uh, and if Bri Hall, the running back comes back healthy, he tore his a c l I believe and he was playing really well before that. So, you know, I think this is a playoff team. I'm not gonna say like they're a Super Bowl team. Um, maybe make the playoffs, you know, for the first time since 2010. Um, that's a good start. But, you know, I, I do think they're gonna be better cuz they were, they were good last year except for the quarterback.
Speaker 2 00:09:39 It was the only, it was really in my mind, the only piece, uh,
Speaker 1 00:09:42 They really could have made the playoffs, I think.
Speaker 2 00:09:44 And I think the Cols are in a similar position. Uh, we'll see if, you know, Anthony Richardson is gonna be the, the guy for them. But, uh, yeah, I think there were a couple teams that sort of had everything going except for the guy. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And now I think the Jets do have the guy, I do think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be a little bit more plug and play, uh, without a drop off maybe than somebody like Russell Wilson who ordinarily would've, you know, we've talked about his transition to the Broncos. He depended on his legs a lot to to be a, a star and um, it just didn't fit very well immediately.
Speaker 1 00:10:25 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> well, and especially as he gets older, he can't quite do that as much. No. Um, so what do you think about, this is a really, it has nothing to do with like, you know, what we think he's gonna be like, but how do you feel about Aaron Rogers being number eight instead of 12?
Speaker 2 00:10:45 Uh, I don't remember the reasoning behind that.
Speaker 1 00:10:49 Well, the reasoning is cuz 12 is retired for Joe Namath.
Speaker 2 00:10:53 Oh, okay. But
Speaker 1 00:10:54 Joe Namath gave him permission to use it.
Speaker 2 00:10:56 Right, right, right, right. Okay. Yeah. But
Speaker 1 00:10:58 Rogers chose not to and uh, age is what he wore at Cal. So I'm like, on the one hand, like, yeah, I get it. That's respect. Like, you're showing an older quarterback, the a legend, probably the, I'm laughing, the best quarterback that jets have ever had, which is really sad cuz Joe Namath hot take wasn't really that good of a quarterback. Um,
Speaker 2 00:11:21 I don't know if that That's that's a pretty hot take. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:11:24 Oh, that's, that's, that's going in there. Okay. It's not that he wasn't a good quarterback, but first off he threw more picks than touchdowns in his career.
Speaker 2 00:11:32 Sure. Yeah. I mean, by today's standards, it's, uh,
Speaker 1 00:11:35 Yeah. He, he, he is not as good as people think he was. A lot of the love for him was the swagger and the guarantee to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 00:11:46 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:11:47 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which, you know, crushed it. Um, so on the one hand I respect Rogers for not giving that, you know, for not taking it when he could have. Um, but on the other hand, I'm like, Rogers, you're better than name if ever was. So you should take it. But,
Speaker 2 00:12:02 Well he's, so that's a question of personal branding versus team branding. And when you come into a new team, I agree with you, there's the respect thing to the, the guy and then also to the fan base who, you know, obviously holds Namath probably to a higher degree than than you do. Um, <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:12:20 I do not <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:12:21 But, uh, I think more than that, if you look at the current generations, there's been, uh, of quarterbacks, there's been a lot of comparison between Rogers and Brady. Uh, and Brady is the more famous 12 and that just is what it is. So it's a fresh start for Rogers. He's gonna have a different number and he gets to disassociate a little bit more, uh, than Tom Brady so, or from Tom Brady. So, yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I think it's, it's probably the right thing. Um, and I don't know too many people who are specifically Aaron Rogers fans. Like in the nfl you follow a team more than you follow the player.
Speaker 1 00:13:00 Especially he's lost a lot of fans the past couple years cuz he is getting really weird. Yeah. He's, um, and here's a strange guy. Will you get, will you get a year, will you get two years from him? Like there's no guarantee <laugh> that you're gonna get more than a year from him. Um,
Speaker 2 00:13:15 So better, yeah. Something's in his contract though to
Speaker 1 00:13:18 Oh, does
Speaker 2 00:13:19 He incentivize Yeah. Incentivize multiple years of playing. Uh, but yeah, I think, I think that that's a good call. Anyway, these guys often end up, they never do the full contract. Right.
Speaker 1 00:13:31 And like, could that be good for Zach Wilson who's now gonna be the backup? Like maybe, or they just give up on him, you know, hi there. Or, um, back to the Rams, is that was, we went on a tangent, but the tangent actually was in my notes, so it wasn't completely, you know,
Speaker 2 00:13:48 Well it's what we do.
Speaker 1 00:13:49 So really if the Rams suck back to my original fear or thought that the Rams are probably gonna suck this year, the draft at least was really good. I thought still didn't have a first round pick. Haven't had one since 2016.
Speaker 2 00:14:04 Right.
Speaker 1 00:14:04 But they drafted Steve Avila or Avila, I don't know which, which syllable they accentuate <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:14:11 He's a guard out of tcu. We got him 36th overall, so like right outside the first round. Um, and I'm glad that they picked a lineman like the past couple years they've been notorious for like, oh, we're gonna pick a receiver and then a running bag and then here's another receiver. It's like, why are you picking that? You don't need that <laugh> mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and the line last year was horrible and a lot of it was injuries and losing Andrew Whitworth, but like, yeah, I'm glad that they finally, they're like, yeah, we need to, we need to draft this car. They drafted Warren McClendon in the fifth round, also a, an offensive tackle. Byron Young and Kobe Turner defensive lineman in the third round solid cuz they lost some lineman. Um, so good to, to replace them. They they did a lot of that where the, the players they picked, like they were actually things they needed. They got a tight end Davis Allen in the fifth. So I don't know what the point of trading for that dolphins tight end was. Um, and we got LaDanian Tomlinson's nephew who's a corner, not a running back, but Oh,
Speaker 2 00:15:11 Okay.
Speaker 1 00:15:12 Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:15:13 Yeah. Sorry, I was looking, uh, very low down the, the depth chart there to try and find that name, but <laugh>. Yeah. It, it's interesting the way espn, uh, I'm looking at ESPN's depth chart for the Rams right now. And even though a lot of, you know, you didn't have a first round pick, a lot of these guys were kind of late around people. A lot of them are starters. Uh, yeah, they're, they're good picks according to espn, I think, I think you ended up getting more playable guys than it first looked like and probably at a relatively low cost. Um,
Speaker 1 00:15:48 Well, and and they kept trading back, which is a lot of, I mean they had 14 picks I think. Yeah. Um, yeah. And, uh, we mentioned him briefly. Stetson Bennett from Georgia. Um, I like the pick, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like I said, low risk. If Stafford gets hurt, let's see what he can do. Uh, if he's no good, fine. He was a fourth round pick, but he's gotta be better than the backups we had last year. So, um, I'm looking at the schedule though, and Wolf it is not not good. Who's your start off? Seattle.
Speaker 2 00:16:22 Oh
Speaker 1 00:16:22 Yeah, San Francisco, Cincinnati. That's quite possibly O and three, maybe one and two,
Speaker 2 00:16:30 I think. Yeah, I think if you win any of those, it's, it's probably Seattle and I, I would say o and three. Just yeah. I, I don't want to be, I don't want to affirm you too much on this, but I don't anticipate the Rams to move up too much from where they were last year.
Speaker 1 00:16:47 No. And I won't go through the whole schedule, but like, we play the Eagles, the Steelers, the Cowboys,
Speaker 2 00:16:52 Right. Um, all of those teams are probably moving up. Maybe not the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 00:16:57 No. We, we could beat, um, the Commanders and the Saints. Those are wild cards. You never know mm-hmm. <affirmative> could beat the Browns if Deshaun Watson sucks again.
Speaker 2 00:17:08 Yeah. That's a big wild card, isn't it?
Speaker 1 00:17:10 Yeah. So I'm thinking like six and 11 for the Rams.
Speaker 2 00:17:14 Well, and you're, uh, you're, uh, depth at running back is confusing. So, you know, boom or bus, they just keep going after cam makers.
Speaker 1 00:17:24 They love cam
Speaker 2 00:17:25 Makers, they love them. Some cam makers. And,
Speaker 1 00:17:28 And I, well, there's been a rumor and I don't know how, if there's anything to substantiate it, but that Dalvin Cooke to the Rams for a couple years might be a nice move.
Speaker 2 00:17:36 Well, Dalvin Cooke has been a steady running back. I mean, he's, he's productive. Um, he's on the downward end of his career though. Agreed. That's, that just is, that's
Speaker 1 00:17:47 What I said, maybe like a couple years
Speaker 2 00:17:49 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. I think at, at most, and probably on the tail end of that, he's not, you know, it, he would probably be going into an offense where he's doing the split duties mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, sort of like what they do in Cleveland or uh, in Detroit. But yeah, that, that would be my guess for a veteran like him. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:18:08 <affirmative>. But yeah. So that's, that's my outlook on the Rams. It's not looking good. I read somewhere this team could be good in a few years, but not right now. And I'd be okay with that, you know, if this is like, we need to rebuild, but as long as there's progress, I'm okay with that. I just don't want it to be like, you know, I remember 2007 they went three and 13 and I was like, oh, it can't get much worse than this. So they went two and 14. Oh, it can't get much worse than this. Then they went one and 15. Um, so as long as you don't go back there Right. Or the mediocrity of Jeff Fisher
Speaker 2 00:18:42 And, and if you can keep your Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:45 Yeah. I don't like having like every year to have to figure out if he's staying or not, but I don't know he's worth it. He's probably already the best coach we've ever had. Um, so you Steelers what you got?
Speaker 2 00:18:59 Yes, me <laugh>. Uh, well, you know, I am pretty happy with the draft. I think pretty much every analyst out there thinks that the Steelers were in the top third of teams in terms of quality draft. Uh, did a good job there. Yeah. Broderick Drones great. First rounder we traded with the Patriots. Uh, so, you know, who knows, maybe that's gonna come back to bite us because you always, what
Speaker 1 00:19:28 Did they know? That they
Speaker 2 00:19:29 Know something we don't know. Yeah. Um, but the, you know, these, these linemen were going, uh, earlier in the draft, I think they anticipated. And so the Steelers had to move up a couple spots, three spots I think, to, to get him. Yeah. Um, and I feel good about that because I think protecting picket is a big thing. Uh, I expect him to be, you know, this is the year. If he doesn't do it this year, then he's Hess gonna be done. Uh,
Speaker 1 00:19:56 Which I don't like, like that really, it's only a second year.
Speaker 2 00:19:59 That's how it is. I, oh man. I think that's how it is. Um, and then the other, the other element at play is Nadji Harris. And right now he's supposed to be the starter. I think most people feel like last year was a fluke, but if you, if you have a full season, that's a fluke as a running back, it's kind of like, uh, I don't know. So I, I would expect both of them really have to prove it this year. And so we could have a pretty good year if both of them are capable of that. Um,
Speaker 1 00:20:30 See
Speaker 2 00:20:31 That's the thing. And a lot of that comes down to the line.
Speaker 1 00:20:33 Well, and I noted too that I don't really know any of your receivers mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, I only know Pat Remo and that's the tight end. That probably shouldn't be your number one pest catching option.
Speaker 2 00:20:47 He's not. No. So Pat, pat Fouth will probably have a, a decent, you know, tight end year. Uh, but tight ends these days are, if you play fantasy football, you kind of know that the position is almost dead from a pass catching standpoint. Mm-hmm. It
Speaker 1 00:21:01 Really is.
Speaker 2 00:21:02 But we do have George Pickens, I would, I would say is he's, he's a really good receiver. Uh, his natural talent is, uh, through the roof. And I think that another year in the books with, uh, training, with understanding how the team works, learning the plays, uh, getting synced up with Pickett is gonna be huge. I think he's gonna have a really, really, really big year. Um, so watch for that. And then Deonte Johnson, I don't really understand why people consider him to be a w r one, but, um, that's what he is labeled as. So, you know, we'll see if default, I think he's more of a slot guy. Yeah. Um, but he's, you know, he's fine. He's, he's a good option. And the thing with the Steelers is they'll, they'll probably try to spread it around pretty evenly. Um, but we'll have to see because really throwing over the middle of the field and stretching it as well as has been an issue. Uh, so we really need to get, get deep. Oh. And then Alan Robinson. Um,
Speaker 1 00:22:08 <laugh>. Yeah. My, my worst take of all time. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 2 00:22:12 What was it you said about him?
Speaker 1 00:22:14 So last year I was, I was dead set on this. Like, I was convinced because Alan Robinson was gonna be the Rams second receiver, and everyone was gonna be so focused on Cooper Cup that Robinson was gonna be like wide open and he was gonna have a phenomenal year. And I had him, like, I was talking him up in every fantasy league and he was so bad. <laugh>, I don't even know. He had like, I don't even know if he had 400 yards receiving.
Speaker 2 00:22:41 Well, and he missed time too.
Speaker 1 00:22:42 Yeah. Right. Uh, so you can have him. I, he's another one that I think is on the downward trajectory.
Speaker 2 00:22:50 Yeah. He's probably, uh, if, if you hit a thousand yards, the likelihood of having a another thousand yard season, it, it usually diminishes after that. Um, unless you're, um, Mike Evans, who's Mr. A Thousand Yards.
Speaker 1 00:23:05 Yeah. He's just so good. Um, yeah, I I, my thought is that you guys are probably gonna be right around where you were last year
Speaker 2 00:23:13 In the division.
Speaker 1 00:23:15 Well, just record wise. You guys went nine and eight, I believe. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:23:19 We like, so we like have something like that, you know, those hard-earned wild guard spots.
Speaker 1 00:23:24 Yep. Um, but yeah, I, I'm with you at really like Picket and Nae Harris. Like that could be really good. Could be really bad. I don't know. Uh, I like that you drafted Joey Porter Jr. Um,
Speaker 2 00:23:41 Just a story. It was nice on, on the second day to have the option with him. You know, it was like a lot of people thought he'd be a first rounder and then having the first pick on the second day is sort of like having a first rounder. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Speaker 1 00:23:56 Bringing,
Speaker 2 00:23:57 Bringing the family back together is
Speaker 1 00:23:58 Good in most years. Like, cuz he was 32nd overall mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which in most years would be a first round pick.
Speaker 2 00:24:05 That's right.
Speaker 1 00:24:06 But, uh, the Dolphins lost theirs this year, so there were only 31 picks. So like, you basically did get a first rounder, um, for less cost. But it's a good story. His dad was really good with the Steelers. I suppose I'm supposed to be happy cuz he's from Penn State. I don't really care. Yeah. But,
Speaker 2 00:24:25 Well, and, and I think he is good. Um, yeah, no,
Speaker 1 00:24:28 He is good. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:24:28 We don't, we don't really know, but the Steelers didn't necessarily have it where it counts in terms of Cornerbacks last year mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and we, I think nobody's gonna disagree that Minka Fitzpatrick is a terrific safety, uh, but whenever he has to play safety linebacker and cornerback all at the same time, it's a lot to ask. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1 00:24:50 But other news in the nfl, I had Lamar, Jackson and Jalen Hertz massive contracts.
Speaker 2 00:24:58 Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 00:24:58 <affirmative>. Um, so Lamar got 260 million over five years. 185 million guaranteed. And Hertz got 2 55 5 years, 180 million guaranteed. Um, so pretty close. Lamar's is a little higher. Uh, how do we feel about those?
Speaker 2 00:25:18 Uh, I'll start with Lamar because he is in our division. I hope that it's a bust <laugh> because, because it's the Ravens. But I have to say that the Ravens are another one of those teams that people felt the day before and then after the draft, the Ravens just did everything right. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, they got to keep their guy, they added some weapons for him. Um, they're already a really good team on both sides of the ball. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they have a good coach still. Yep. Uh, so yeah, I think the Ravens are gonna be fine. Um, I think assuming they stay healthy, they're gonna be probably really good. Uh, so we forgot what it was like to have a very competitive Ravens team.
Speaker 1 00:26:03 What are you talking about? You got to play against Pro Bowl quarterback Tyler Huntley. That's right.
Speaker 2 00:26:09 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:26:09 Yeah. That is forever made the Pro Bowl. You've like a com a complete joke. Like it was already a joke, right. Of like, that's he's he played like how many games? <laugh>?
Speaker 2 00:26:22 I don't know. Huntley's not, yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1 00:26:25 No, I don't know how that happened. Um, but so back to Jackson, like yeah, he's amazing and you, you kind of have to pay him this because what's your option if you don't like Snoop Huntley? Right.
Speaker 2 00:26:39 Right. I mean they didn't, they sort of ran out of time. And then I have to say the other, the other person who won in this not only getting the weapons that he wanted, Lamar didn't pay an agent and everybody in the lead up to this was like, if he'd had an agent, then the contract talks mm-hmm. <affirmative> would be worked out and like all of this would've gone smoother. Maybe he'd be able to leverage things better, uh, yada yada yada. And it wouldn't be personal. Well guess what worked. He didn't have to pay, he didn't have to pay an agent <laugh>. So now like all of these contracts that you hear about, just put a little caveat next to it. These people have to pay agents and they get paid pretty handsomely. Uh, which is fair, but Lamar doesn't have to do that. So he gets the full amount right. Into his, you know, his bank account. Well, whatever
Speaker 1 00:27:27 That looks like. This is his agent or
Speaker 2 00:27:29 Something for a while. Yeah. So I think when you're like self representing, it's, yeah, I think it's a little bit gray. Um,
Speaker 1 00:27:38 Um, but yeah, again, the thing was he's missed four or five games the past two years. So that's the caveat is as long as he is healthy, you're good to go. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But if he gets hurt, then you're probably gonna struggle. Uh, Jalen hurts though. I, I feel like he's, he is worth the extension that he got, but it also feels too soon.
Speaker 2 00:28:06 Uh, y yeah, I said something similar. I think that one y one good year on the books, uh, might not be enough to warrant this, but
Speaker 1 00:28:16 Right.
Speaker 2 00:28:17 It was a legendary year.
Speaker 1 00:28:19 He was fantastic.
Speaker 2 00:28:21 I don't think I would dock him any points from his regular season or his postseason and his performance in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 00:28:31 Again. Literally the only thing in the Super Bowl that he did wrong was the fumble that was returned for a touchdown. Right. Which, it's a big mistake, but like, otherwise he played a perfect game. Like,
Speaker 2 00:28:41 Well, and you could even argue like that's not entirely on him. I mean the stats will, will put it on his, on his player profile. But you know, the guy, certainly he's in fantasy terms, he's gonna be drafted in the top three of quarterbacks in most leagues I would guess. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so yeah, everybody's pretty bullish on, on Hertz and I think for good reason. Uh, and I think the Eagles, he's know that they needed to, they needed to lock him in.
Speaker 1 00:29:12 Yeah. I think he has a higher ceiling than Lamar Jackson does. Um, maybe just cuz at this point we've seen what Lamar can do. Like we know, you know, there's still, Hertz is pretty young. There's, I mean they're, they're only, they were only drafted a couple of years apart. But, um,
Speaker 2 00:29:29 Well, and Lamar, yeah, I think the, the biggest thing, like just, you know, to use the famous eye test expression. Yeah. Lamar is, he's extremely athletic. He's very fast. He can dodge, you know, anything mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but occasionally he gets Pancaked.
Speaker 1 00:29:46 <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:29:47 And Hertz is, he's going to hold up like the guy can squat, what was it, 600 pounds or something on that viral video. Yeah. He's nuts. Um, and so yeah, if I was to pick between the two, I would easily go with Hertz easily. Yeah. And I think he, you know, beyond that he throws better, which is the main, to me, that's the main thing for a quarterback. But
Speaker 1 00:30:08 Agreed. He's got better weapons too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so I think that's all we got for the off season free agency. Uh, it's a little too early for us to make our picks for, you know, who's gonna win it all. That'll be for a later episode. Although I kinda the
Speaker 2 00:30:26 Steelers
Speaker 1 00:30:27 It, how is it not the Chiefs? Like in all honesty. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:31 I mean they're, they're like, uh, copy paste.
Speaker 1 00:30:35 Like if you, I'm we just said it's too early to pick, but like if you don't pick the Chiefs, I don't know. Like everyone wrote 'em off last year.
Speaker 2 00:30:44 And you don't like Joe Purdy and the 49ers?
Speaker 1 00:30:47 Oh, they could be, yeah. They could be really good too.
Speaker 2 00:30:50 But if his arm wasn't amputated,
Speaker 1 00:30:52 Here's the thing. Do you pick, wait, Joe Purdy <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:30:57 Did I say Joe?
Speaker 1 00:30:58 Did you mix Brock Purdy and Joe
Speaker 2 00:31:01 Burrow. <laugh> Joe Burrow. Joe Purdy.
Speaker 1 00:31:03 Yeah. I'm like, no, Joe Burrow, like the Bengals should be really good. Yeah. But if we were here like a year from now and talking about how the Chiefs won the Superbowl, would you be surprised?
Speaker 2 00:31:15 No, not at all. I, I, yeah, I don't think it's, I agree with you. It's too early to make our picks, but it's not too early to make our number one overall pick would be the Chiefs to win it all. Yeah. I just, yeah. What the heck.
Speaker 1 00:31:27 Uh, which my dad didn't like cuz he's a Raiders fan, but sorry Dad.
Speaker 2 00:31:32 Oh.
Speaker 1 00:31:33 So let's, uh, before we wrap up, so just to, you know, what have we been up to lately? Cause it's been a while since we recorded. Uh, so I've been, I've been going out and about going to see more movies, which leads to what I'm really excited for, uh, is a subseries, uh, on snorkeling with Narwhals where I'm going to talk about movies. I go to see with the person that I went with, hopefully if I can, you know, if I can get them. I've seen five movies so far, so it's plausible at the moment. Um, this would be more of a me side project. But Slippy you, you've talked about doing some episodes with your brothers mm-hmm. <affirmative> or at least one episode with your brothers.
Speaker 2 00:32:19 Yep. They don't even know it yet. Um, yep. <laugh> and maybe, maybe they listen to this, but, um, yeah, I, I intend to do an episode or two with them talking about, uh, age of Empires of all things, which is well, which a game that came out, you know, 30 years ago, like <laugh>. So, but we still play it. Um, and there's a, a vibrant community there. And I think you and I have talked about doing some more on, on video games
Speaker 1 00:32:46 As well. Yep. Uh, that's, I, yeah, I don't know if that's how you came up with the Age of Empires one. Um, but we do have a video game episode coming up. Uh, I have my long gestating and still Unresearched episode about living through the pandemic with O C D and I think that's it. Maybe we, we talked about, so a real fantasy football episode for those who don't know, we tried to do a fantasy football episode last year, which was literally just us forming the league as we recorded.
Speaker 2 00:33:20 We just had a call where we,
Speaker 1 00:33:22 I created a league. Yeah. I was like, slippy, this is, it's not good
Speaker 2 00:33:26 <laugh>. It wasn't, it wasn't good. Nobody would listen. Maybe
Speaker 1 00:33:29 It'll get released as like a bonus sometime. Um, but no, I, I do like the idea and he doesn't know about it either. But, uh, talking about, we are in a dynasty fantasy football league started by my brother and I think that would be a really interesting episode because you may know about fantasy football, but do you know about dynasty leagues? I've never played one. So this is gonna be an experience for me.
Speaker 2 00:33:52 Yeah. And he, he created a nice, helpful video explaining Dynasty, the dynasty league to all of the participants. And at He did.
Speaker 1 00:34:00 He was, did you watch it? I was like, I scammed.
Speaker 2 00:34:03 I I watched it cuz I, I had no idea, you know, what was involved. Yeah. And um, I, yeah, at the end of it I was like, he's at least as well spoken as Brian <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:34:14 Probably more cuz he's a professor, so, you know. Is he? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:34:18 Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 00:34:19 But yeah, that's gonna do it for today. I'm Brian
Speaker 2 00:34:22 And I'm Slippy
Speaker 1 00:34:23 And this is snorkeling with Narwhals.
