Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:11 Hey everyone. I'm Brian
Speaker 2 00:00:13 And I'm Slippery.
Speaker 1 00:00:14 And this is snorkeling with Narwhals. And we are not leaving you hanging with episodes. We're gonna try to be more regular with them.
Speaker 2 00:00:22 Well,
Speaker 1 00:00:23 More regular
Speaker 2 00:00:24 <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:00:25 We released five in a year last year.
Speaker 2 00:00:27 <laugh>? Yeah, we, we'll, we could get one more in there. I think
Speaker 1 00:00:31 <laugh>, we're like a limited series then on
Speaker 2 00:00:35 Each, we wanna, we wanna underpromise and overdeliver.
Speaker 1 00:00:38 Yeah. Like, uh, well, we'll give you five episodes. Here's 30. The most episodes I've ever done of a podcast I think was about 30. And it's difficult.
Speaker 2 00:00:48 Which podcast was that?
Speaker 1 00:00:50 That was the hooligans with my siblings.
Speaker 2 00:00:53 Ah, I think it would be easy, like easier if you're doing one with family members, cuz it's like if you're a living under the same roof or if you are seeing each other regularly, that kind of thing. It's like, oh, I can see you're sitting there eating a bowl of mac and cheese. <laugh>. Why don't we pod instead of you doing whatever it is you think you're
Speaker 1 00:01:12 Doing, let's talk about that. Mac and Cheese
Speaker 2 00:01:14 <laugh>. That's right.
Speaker 1 00:01:16 Um, but no, we, um, we're gonna break the illusion here cuz this will probably be released later, but we're recording it right after the Super Bowl episode. <laugh>. Uh, cuz we just had a really good flow going and, or who knows, maybe it'll be a double episode. I don't know.
Speaker 2 00:01:35 And we're feeling it
Speaker 1 00:01:36 To like, like we said about the Fast and the Furious, the one time I live my life a quarter mile at a time. That's literally like how my brain works. It's like I'm just trying to get to the next hour. Um, so
Speaker 2 00:01:49 And our and our thing is like limited editing, so
Speaker 1 00:01:52 Yeah. I don't wanna edit.
Speaker 2 00:01:53 Yeah. So no apologies from us
Speaker 1 00:01:56 On. So if you, uh, if you're out there and you want to edit a podcast for free to my kind of high standards, I know it sounds appealing, but we have an opening
Speaker 2 00:02:09 <laugh>. Yeah. This is like, this is an internship of a lifetime <laugh>. Uh, it will be free. There will be no paperwork. Uh, we do about five episodes a year. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:02:20 <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:02:22 On a random schedule,
Speaker 1 00:02:23 On a very random schedule. I will cancel at least <laugh> three times per episode.
Speaker 2 00:02:30 On the Plus side. You get to listen to our voices Yeah. Instead of somebody else's for
Speaker 1 00:02:35 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:36 You know, you know how editing is. It's like <laugh> listening to the tail end of my syllables for <laugh> for Hours. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:02:46 So today's episode, we came up with this idea and yes, we'll just acknowledge that The Ringer has a Spotify podcast that's a similar idea. I don't know what it's called, but it's about Hot Takes. Um,
Speaker 2 00:03:00 Ours, but we haven't, we haven't listened to that
Speaker 1 00:03:02 Show. Not for like an, not for a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:03:05 So we're, we can't take any,
Speaker 1 00:03:07 No,
Speaker 2 00:03:07 We, yeah, we'll do a, uh, if this, if this is better. We'll, we'll take some credit, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:03:14 Yeah. Um, but no, we're gonna do Movie Hot Takes because I thought of this, we were having a discussion at dinner one time, and I'll start with how it started and then just lead right into my first hot take. Uh, my sister said that Mny Shalan peaked with his first movie, which I don't think that's really a hot take cuz I, I mean, I think he had like maybe a student film or a sh you know, something beforehand. But his first major Hollywood film was The Sixth Sense, which I mean, still like the greatest twist ending of all time.
Speaker 2 00:03:49 But is it a, is it a hot take to say I haven't seen it. <laugh>?
Speaker 1 00:03:54 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:03:55 Well,
Speaker 1 00:03:56 It's not a hot take, but it's just,
Speaker 2 00:03:58 It's a bad take.
Speaker 1 00:03:59 <laugh>. Do you know the Twist?
Speaker 2 00:04:04 Uh, I think as somebody told me at once, I honestly, because I haven't seen it, it just doesn't stick in my mind. So
Speaker 1 00:04:10 It's not a movie I like to watch and I'm not a fan of Mite Shalon, but it's really well made and it's disturbing. And the
Speaker 2 00:04:17 Twisting, isn't it Bruce Willis?
Speaker 1 00:04:18 Yeah. And Hailey. Joel Osman. Okay. Um, and The Twist is the best movie twist I have ever seen, even though, and we're just gonna, I'm gonna spoil it for everyone, uh, including you cuz this movie is almost 25 years old. So, you know, fair point. Some men just wanna watch the World Burn, but Bruce Willis's character was dead the whole time.
Speaker 2 00:04:42 Oh, I do remember this. Somebody told me that. Uh, people reference it. Like people reference the sixth Sense in
Speaker 1 00:04:48 Their life. I mean, it was mass. That was a massive twist. And like, again, when you watch it after that, you're like, oh yeah, well, it's really obvious he never interacts with anyone.
Speaker 2 00:04:56 Does that make it, does that make it a, a good, it's like you watch it once and then you're like, okay, I Or
Speaker 1 00:05:05 You watch Value
Speaker 2 00:05:05 Is not, I don't need to see it. Or do you or do you wanna watch it again because you're like, okay, now I wanna see it through the lens of like, I knew this guy was dead the whole
Speaker 1 00:05:13 Time. Maybe twice. But it's a disturbing movie. It's not scary. Like there's just, it's, it's creepy. Okay. Um, but that led into my first Hot take that George Lucas also peaked with his first movie. Now he had, I think a student film or like, you know, some indie thing. I'm not talking about that. His first major movie was American Graffiti in 1973. Uh, Francis Ford Coppola of the Godfather Fame helped get it made. And I think that's the best movie he's ever made. Now that's, you know, that's a hot take. We're talking about the guy who created Star Wars directed the original and the prequels if we're being, you know, tech, you know, obviously none of those are gonna be his best movie. Um, I think he directed some other cartoon, but he also was a producer for Indiana Jones and for Willow. So my hot take is that the man who helped create or created Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Willow peaked with the 1973, like coming of age movie <laugh> American Graffiti.
Speaker 2 00:06:33 I, you know, you actually, so you texted me before the pod and told me that this was gonna be one of your takes and you must have known that. I would feel, I would feel defensive about it because I'm such a Star Wars fanboy.
Speaker 1 00:06:47 <laugh>. Well I was like, this is a hot take and this is what we should do an episode about.
Speaker 2 00:06:52 And I, and I have not seen American Graffiti, so I can't even say, I can't even, you know, push back. Maybe I would watch it and it would blow my mind.
Speaker 1 00:07:01 I'll, I'll explain it. So, you know, a coming of age thing or like a slice of life film can either be boring or it can be good or it can be both. But, um, the premise of American Graffiti is there's four high school graduates and it takes place in the fifties and it's like their last night, like just driving around town before they each go their separate ways. And there's like different stories for each of them. Uh, Ron Howard was in it. It's one of, you know, I think one of the last things he was in before he went in just directing, um, that could be a lie, I'm not sure. But, um,
Speaker 2 00:07:45 Every, everything we say on the show has been fact checked.
Speaker 1 00:07:48 Yeah. By someone.
Speaker 2 00:07:50 By someone somewhere
Speaker 1 00:07:51 At some point.
Speaker 2 00:07:52 At some point.
Speaker 1 00:07:53 Uh, Richard Dre is in it.
Speaker 2 00:07:55 We'll just edit it out. <laugh>?
Speaker 1 00:07:57 Nope. <laugh> Richard is in it, um, approximately I think two or three years before Jaws. And he looks so different. He looks, I don't know, like when they filmed these, like, you know, cuz just cuz it came out in 1973 doesn't mean that that they filmed it. Uh, they could've filmed it in 1971. I don't know. Um, but he looks so much younger than he does in Jaws and it's ridiculous. So basically the premise of this movie is just, there's different stories like, uh, Richard S's character found, like he just saw like a blonde woman in a car and she waved at him. And so his goal throughout the night is to try to find her. Ron Howard is dealing with problems with his girlfriend. One guy ends up meeting a girl who's like way out of his league and he's like the super nerd. Uh, and he has to try to like act all, you know, cool to impress her. And then one's like a greaser who gets in his street race with Harrison Ford <laugh>. Oh geez. But before that, he's, he ends up like being horn swaggle into driving around just like some girl's, 12 year old sister.
Speaker 2 00:09:11 And this is better than Star Wars, is that
Speaker 1 00:09:13 You're saying? Yes. Okay. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:09:15 <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:09:16 Now. Okay. Now, I mean, the stories eventually all intersect, but what makes it good is just, it's very, it's natural. Like, it's literally just, you can imagine, you know, if you lived in the fifties and your graduate high school, this is what you would do. You just go hang out, you drive around, uh, you'd get ready for, for the next phase of your life to start. But I think the thing that really makes it stand out for me, and it's a choice that you don't see in later George Lucas movies. I don't know exactly if this is true, but the gist of it is that he wrote every scene with a song in mind.
Speaker 2 00:09:54 Hmm.
Speaker 1 00:09:55 Um, which actually cost made, you know, the soundtrack budget was huge. Trying to license all these songs. It's
Speaker 2 00:10:03 Probably a theme for him,
Speaker 1 00:10:04 But I'm like, that is moving forward. That is so smart. Like, you know, every song or every scene has a song playing in the background that corresponds to what's going on in some way. And that's just so smart to me. But I love Star Wars. I do. Um, but considering he only directed the original and then he directed the prequels, which objectively are not very good.
Speaker 2 00:10:36 All right. Here's a quick hot take. Episode three is the best. So of
Speaker 1 00:10:41 All, all the Star Wars.
Speaker 2 00:10:43 I think so. It's, I think it's a masterpiece. And I know that's a lousy thing to say. You can't, you can't ever say, you can't ever say it's better than the original. And everybody says Empire Strikes Back is the best, but Oh my gosh. I think episode three, like for me and where I was at when I was watching Star Wars like that was it. And it's a bad take. I'll, I'll admit that. And I love them all probably equally. But rewatch value, I just love watching episode three. It's Wow.
Speaker 1 00:11:15 Yeah. And um, well there's a hot take within a hot take.
Speaker 2 00:11:20 Yes.
Speaker 1 00:11:21 But I just, I think, you know, especially of the things he's directed, he d he he never did anything better than American Graffiti. And like, that's so unlike me because, you know, like I love sci-fi things and I love nerd things. So this is like a p a movie that my parents really like. And so it was on one day and I was like, okay, fine. American Graffiti looks. And I was like, huh, you know what? This is actually really good. And it's, I don't know. Hmm. And again, considering he produced Indiana Jones, he didn't direct it and he produced Willow. I don't know how involved he was in the creation of those, but maybe it's also a little cheap hot take cuz I've never seen Willow and I've never seen most of the Indiana Jones movies, but I have seen all the Star Wars and I, I still think American Graffiti is his best.
Speaker 2 00:12:16 Wow. Boom. There it is. Everyone. You, you witnessed a breakup
Speaker 1 00:12:20 Celebrating its 50th anniversary, by the way, this year.
Speaker 2 00:12:25 Oh yeah. 73. Wow. I'm, I'm still, uh, my wife and I were just talking about this, it's like something was made in 1980 and I'm like,
Speaker 1 00:12:35 Yeah, that was 20 years
Speaker 2 00:12:36 Ago. 20 years ago. Yeah. And it's like <laugh>, no, <laugh>. No. That was no 43 years ago. And you were, you are much closer to 50 young man than you think you are <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:12:51 Yep.
Speaker 2 00:12:51 Turn the corner.
Speaker 1 00:12:53 Uh, so you, well you already gave like a, a mini hot take, but what's your first hot take?
Speaker 2 00:12:59 All right. So I think that binging is a better way to consume TV or movie series than any other format. So TV is notorious for releasing, you know, like, okay, there's gonna be a new episode every week, or we're gonna do a new episode every month, or whatever it is. And some of these silly streaming platforms which have the ability to release them all at once, still choose not to. They're like, we'll build the anticipation around each episode. This is ridiculous. Just give it to me all at once. I will have a better experience with the show. And I'll give you an example.
Speaker 1 00:13:35 Okay.
Speaker 2 00:13:36 I was late, I was a late bloomer to Game of Thrones. It was all released by the time I watched it.
Speaker 1 00:13:42 Yes. Okay. I remember you telling me a little about
Speaker 2 00:13:45 This. Okay. And everybody, everybody, if you recall, like, you didn't even need to have watched it to know that people were upset about the way Game of Thrones finished. They were upset about like the last two seasons or whatever it was. Yada yada, yada. If you just binge it, you don't know how it finishes and you don't know the show and you just watch it straight through. It's great seasons have nothing to do with anything because it doesn't matter if you're at the start of a season or in the middle of one that you're just in the, in this broad landscape of like a hundred episodes and you have no gauge on like, oh, I was disappointed cuz there were only five episodes in that season and there had previously been 20 and all the others. Right. You know, and, and I think it just, I thought it just flowed really well. I thought the story was really good. I liked the way it concluded. I have no complaints. I thought Game Thrones was great because I binged it and I knew nothing about
Speaker 1 00:14:38 It. Your hot take kind of turned into a hot take.
Speaker 2 00:14:40 Yeah. Yeah. So that was good. It's
Speaker 1 00:14:42 Hard about just binging, but then you specifically got into the fact that you think the Game of Thrones finale or final season was great.
Speaker 2 00:14:50 Yeah. And, and I will push back against anybody who says otherwise, I dare you to rewatch it all. Rewatch the whole of Game of Thrones, which people don't do. That's the other thing. People don't rewatch Game of Thrones because they were so upset by the end of it. And I dare you to do it.
Speaker 1 00:15:05 Yeah. And I think probably part I did not watch the show. I mean, I've seen a couple episodes, but I think part of why people were upset is if you watched from the beginning, you've been invested in this show for quite a long time. It
Speaker 2 00:15:21 Was a long span of time. That's
Speaker 1 00:15:23 True. So then yeah, like, then, then you watched the end and you're like, it's that's it. Anti-climactic. And you're like, you're like, what?
Speaker 2 00:15:30 Yep.
Speaker 1 00:15:31 But like you're saying, if you binge it all at once, like you don't have necessarily the attachment to like the time,
Speaker 2 00:15:40 The time investment. Right? Yeah, yeah. Now they couldn't have done it of course. Right. Like the, they do pilots and things see how a show is gonna go and then they get the funding to do
Speaker 1 00:15:51 More. Yeah. I don't HBO especially, I don't think they,
Speaker 2 00:15:54 They can't do it. Don't. But somebody like Disney releasing like Star Wars or even Amazon releasing their Lord of the Rings thing, it's like
Speaker 1 00:16:02 Disney's Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2 00:16:04 You, you have shelled money into these shows Beyond Belief and you can, like, you've finished it. They're not still on the cutting room floor with these things. They're just, they're just waiting. Upload it. I don't have time for that. And, and related to this, I will tell you, and maybe you'll have a hot take within this cuz we disagree. I binged the X-Men movies.
Speaker 1 00:16:29 We
Speaker 2 00:16:29 Did
Speaker 1 00:16:30 Talk about this
Speaker 2 00:16:31 And I think Logan sucks.
Speaker 1 00:16:33 <laugh>. Okay, now we have a
Speaker 2 00:16:35 Problem. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:16:37 You brought this up just to trigger me cuz I, I'm the one who brought it up to begin with, I think, wasn't it that you
Speaker 2 00:16:45 Did
Speaker 1 00:16:46 An incredible movie? You
Speaker 2 00:16:48 You sent that to me out of the blue and I sent right back. You're dead wrong. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:16:54 <laugh>. Um, you are so wrong on this.
Speaker 2 00:16:59 Everybody agrees with you. I'm, I'm in the minority.
Speaker 1 00:17:03 Um, so for those who haven't seen Logan takes place in the year 2029, by the way. Uh, we're not that far away.
Speaker 2 00:17:14 No, it's, we we're gonna witness it pretty soon. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:17:17 Um, and it's old, like older Wolverine, super old Professor X and they discover a young mutant who is genetically the daughter of Wolverine cuz like, they experimented and they used his DNA N Right. Um, and it's very dark. It's, there's like no X-men left because it's implied that Professor X killed them all accidentally because he's like getting senile or, you know, has a degenerative brain disease.
Speaker 2 00:17:53 Right. So then
Speaker 1 00:17:55 He has one of the, like most powerful brains ever, <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:17:58 So he has these fits where he just, you know, kills people basically.
Speaker 1 00:18:02 Yeah. Like his brain just goes off. Right. Um, and it's, it's so dark. It's basically just about like, Wolverine is dying and he has really no desire to do anything but take care of Professor X and like get out. He wants to get a boat so they can just live out on the water, like away from everyone. And it's incredible. He, throughout the movie, like he gets closer to the, the daughter, he accidentally gets an entire family killed, which you could see coming from a mile away.
Speaker 2 00:18:40 Yep.
Speaker 1 00:18:41 And like by the end, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, majored, you know,
Speaker 2 00:18:48 He died. It was <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:18:51 <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:18:51 It was, it it's not that new of a movie at this point,
Speaker 1 00:18:55 Right? No,
Speaker 2 00:18:56 I mean, it, was it the last one that they made?
Speaker 1 00:18:59 Uh, there were a couple after that, but
Speaker 2 00:19:00 Okay. Yeah, I don't remember. So the thing is, I think most people watched them as they came out kind of like you would with the Avengers movies, you see them in the theaters. And because I binged it once again, I, I actually felt like the whole of the X-Men movies, like they stand up pretty well. And then you have Logan, which for me it does stand out. I wouldn't argue against it as a standalone movie, but because it's a part of this hole, it just doesn't fit in. It's completely different. Like, everything about it is different and from top to bottom. And I, it just is like, it's so unsettling.
Speaker 1 00:19:41 Well here's, I'll, I'll get back to that. Um, another, I mean, part of what made it so great for me was that it was finally an r-rated Wolverine movie that shows what would happen if someone with licensed indestructible metal clause was people <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:20:01 <laugh>, somebody shanked you with, with three spikes coming out of their arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:20:05 Yeah. So it's brutally violent. Like it's, the language is really bad, which it shouldn't sound like a selling point, but, um, it was nice to
Speaker 2 00:20:16 Have a, it appeals to Yeah, it appeals to a modern on Wolverine
Speaker 1 00:20:19 Movie. Yeah. Um, but like you were saying, I like to think, and this is what they call Head Cannon, I like to think that Logan takes place in an alternate timeline.
Speaker 2 00:20:33 Yes.
Speaker 1 00:20:33 Because if you don't, uh, like if you've seen Days of Future past Yes. That ends perfectly and has like, it wraps up everything. They fix the timelines, everything is like super happy. If you then watch Logan, you're like, well that didn't last.
Speaker 2 00:20:51 Nope. Yeah. It wasn't tight. I I thought it was tight at the end of, of Days of Future. And then it was like, what is this? You just, you're gonna unravel it and then not gimme anything.
Speaker 1 00:21:01 So I, so your problem is not so much with the movie, it's with where it stands with the other X-Men
Speaker 2 00:21:08 Movie. Exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:21:09 I think that's fair. That's actually, that's that bad.
Speaker 2 00:21:12 Yeah. I think as a movie, it's, it's good. Like I think if I had only seen that I probably wouldn't really understand it all that well. Yeah. Um, although maybe I would, I mean, you can kind of tell relationship between him and, and Professor X and like, that's really all you need to
Speaker 1 00:21:28 Know. Basically. It's like everyone knows who Wolverine and Professor X are. Even if you don't like, follow comics. Like you,
Speaker 2 00:21:35 You didn't probably, you could, you could have looked at like a cereal box and you Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:21:40 Um, okay. So that hot take actually is not as bad as I thought it was. It's got more nuance than
Speaker 2 00:21:48 It does. Yeah. I, it's harsh to say Logan sucks <laugh>, but
Speaker 1 00:21:52 Yes, it sucks now in
Speaker 2 00:21:54 The, in the context of, you know, leather tights and aliens running around and stuff. It's just a, it it's totally different. It's like, it's
Speaker 1 00:22:03 Totally different. Yeah. Um, but you also, so we mentioned he a Future Pass, but the other ones that came out around there were Xmen Apocalypse, which is not very good. The New Mutants, which took forever to come out and I've never seen,
Speaker 2 00:22:19 I don't think I've seen that.
Speaker 1 00:22:20 Yeah. And Dark Phoenix, which I didn't see, but got destroyed by critics.
Speaker 2 00:22:27 We had to, uh, yeah, we had to rent that one. It was painful too. It was like, you know, we're trying to watch all of them, or we had tried to watch all of them and then
Speaker 1 00:22:35 What a waste of
Speaker 2 00:22:36 That cat. This, this is the only one that was not available on any of the platforms that we have. So we have like all of them. So then we had to pay money for it, and then we watched it and we were like, well, at least we checked that off the box
Speaker 1 00:22:49 <laugh>. Yeah. Um, so those ones, if you want to say they suck, I'm all for that.
Speaker 2 00:22:55 Yeah. I mean, I, I no proof on the whole, I, it's not really a hot take, but the X-Men movies are like not all that great.
Speaker 1 00:23:02 Uh, they're, they're hit or miss. So the first two X-Men movies are great, especially the second one. The second one
Speaker 2 00:23:07 Is incredible. Yeah. I thought the first two were really
Speaker 1 00:23:09 Good. But Yeah, I love Night Crawler. Yeah. Uh, he's one of my favorite mutants.
Speaker 2 00:23:14 But they don't, the thing with them is, at this point, the X-Men movies are, are old. It's like watching, I don't know, the first, like the first iteration of Spider-Man, like from their early two thousands.
Speaker 1 00:23:26 Oh yeah. Well, I mean, X two came out 20 years ago. Right. Um, and I mean,
Speaker 2 00:23:32 Not in 1980. Like <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:23:35 I mean, Alan Cummings portrayal of a Night Crawler. Not the kid who plays him in the
Speaker 2 00:23:40 Oh yeah. Whoever that was. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1 00:23:42 No.
Speaker 2 00:23:42 Um, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 00:23:44 I'm just, I, I, as a sidebar, I find the character of Knight Carer very intriguing in that movie because he's, he's like devoutly Catholic <laugh>, but he looks like a demonn.
Speaker 2 00:23:57 Oh.
Speaker 1 00:23:58 And so it's like just, you know, that juxtaposition of like, he's really kind of harmless and he is just trying to atone for things he's done. But he looks so scary that like everyone, you know, would assume he's evil. I don't know. He's, I, I like, I like Night Crawler. I mean, he, that's the only one that Alan Cumming played him in, which is a shame. But the third one is bad.
Speaker 2 00:24:26 Yeah. I don't, now I'm not remembering which
Speaker 1 00:24:29 One that is. That's one where Jean Gray turns into the Phoenix.
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Yep. That one was bad,
Speaker 1 00:24:33 Horrible, gray, horrible movie.
Speaker 2 00:24:35 Yeah. Actually, I would say like the whole Jean Gray thing in general,
Speaker 1 00:24:40 Everything about Jean Gray is terrible.
Speaker 2 00:24:43 <laugh>, it's not good. It's Yeah. It, it doesn't, uh, like even in the first two, it's like we, we, we had good movies,
Speaker 1 00:24:50 <laugh>. Yeah. I mean, she was, she was, she was good in the first two. I, I had no problem. But it's like the more they tried to focus on like Wolverine and her, it's like they didn't really even have a relationship.
Speaker 2 00:25:01 It wasn't a thing. He
Speaker 1 00:25:02 Wanted her and she like, kind of wanted him, but then was like, no, I'm with Cyclops. And that was pretty much it.
Speaker 2 00:25:08 Yeah. I felt like it, it did, it just didn't give enough, uh, like background for that. No. Like, there's not enough for us to be invested in this.
Speaker 1 00:25:16 So I'm just gonna go through them all. Um, X-Men Origins, Wolverine not very good, but I kind of like it.
Speaker 2 00:25:23 That's the one where, uh, he, he like goes into a well during the Adam
Speaker 1 00:25:28 Bomb. No, that's the one where it's like in the seventies I think.
Speaker 2 00:25:33 Okay. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 00:25:35 We have Schreiber as Sabertooth.
Speaker 2 00:25:37 Right.
Speaker 1 00:25:38 Uh, it's not very good, but I like
Speaker 2 00:25:39 It. No, I enjoy it. Well, and Libe Schreiber, like just including him, that's the only one he appears in, right? Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I actually, his character's like really weird, but I think I just like him anytime he is on screen.
Speaker 1 00:25:55 He's a good actor. Yeah. He, there are things in that movie that work. The movie really doesn't, but <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:26:02 Yeah. Yeah. It's a
Speaker 1 00:26:04 Little weird. X-Men First class Solid.
Speaker 2 00:26:07 Yep.
Speaker 1 00:26:08 Um, the casting they did with James McEvoy and Michael Fastbender as young, uh, professor X and Magni was
Speaker 2 00:26:16 Perfect.
Speaker 1 00:26:17 So good. Yeah. And Jennifer Lawrence as Mystique. Really Good. Yep. Uh, Nicholas Holt as Beast. Really Good.
Speaker 2 00:26:24 Yep.
Speaker 1 00:26:24 Kevin Bacon is hard to take seriously as a villain,
Speaker 2 00:26:28 But, but Kevin Bacon, I
Speaker 1 00:26:30 Mean, but he's Kevin Bacon <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:26:33 A hot take within a hot take. Yeah. Uh, Footloose sucks. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:26:38 That's just like the line in, uh, Avengers Infinity War when Star Lords Like, is is Footloose still the greatest movie ever? Spiderman's Like it never was <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:26:46 Kevin Bacon's still the greatest actor of
Speaker 1 00:26:49 All Time <laugh>. Uh, side note, did you watch The Guardian's Holiday special?
Speaker 2 00:26:54 No. Should
Speaker 1 00:26:55 I? Yes, because Holiday,
Speaker 2 00:26:57 Should I wait until the holidays?
Speaker 1 00:26:58 No. Okay. Um, the plot of it is that to cheer Star Lord Up Mantis and tracks kidnap Kevin Bacon as a gift for it. <laugh>. Oh no. Ok. So yeah, definitely watch that. But um, next up was the Wolverine that's on where he was, uh, with the Adam bomb in the beginning. In the Well, yeah. Where he saves the guy I thought was good. It's not bad. Um, then Days of Future Pass, which not, again, if, if we're just talking like X-Men movies and not counting Logan or Deadpool, it might be the best one.
Speaker 2 00:27:32 Well, you see all of Yeah. Like the thing with that one is you see all of the characters performing at their peak in synchronization and like Absolutely. Were robbed of that in some capacity in every other movie. And so it's just sweet to see them like going at it full send Yeah. With all their abilities.
Speaker 1 00:27:53 Like the scene with like, where Patrick Stewart, professor X Right. Talks to James McEvoy, professor X, who by the way has never looked cooler than he did in that movie with the long hair and the beard, like, looked awesome. Um, that scene is great. Yep. And again, like the, the ending of the movie is just so satisfying. And then they had to go and make more movies. <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:28:20 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like the whole time element of it. I don't know, it just felt, it just feels like it, it wrapped up really nicely.
Speaker 1 00:28:28 Well, and what it did, because like, it, it did like people were mad that they killed Cyclops in X three
Speaker 2 00:28:35 Sure.
Speaker 1 00:28:36 And they killed Professor X and, you know, all this stuff. And it's like, well, we fixed it. Like now everything's normal. Um, and then they just kept making movies and messed with the timeline even more. Like in X-Men apocalypse, uh, they go to the Akai Lake place where like they help free Wolverine, like in the, I
Speaker 2 00:28:59 Don't know. They go, they go back there multiple times.
Speaker 1 00:29:01 Yeah. But it's like the younger team in the eighties. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but it's like, well, days of Future Pass just showed that Mystique found Wolverine. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So how did he get there? Right? Like so you just ruined the timeline again. But uh, and then the dead pools are just hysterical.
Speaker 2 00:29:20 Oh yeah. If you count them, uh, I mean those are as standalone movies. Amazing.
Speaker 1 00:29:29 Raez.
Speaker 2 00:29:31 Yeah. But they are. But finally, I mean, that to me is like, at least we've, we've seen Ryan Reynolds come into his own like
Speaker 1 00:29:39 Yeah. Except now like, like every character he plays is just Deadpool.
Speaker 2 00:29:42 Well, it's all the same. And even like his, his ads on YouTube and stuff and these companies that he's owning and running or whatever he does. Yeah. It's like he's just, he's just being himself or whatever this brand of him is and yet we like it.
Speaker 1 00:29:59 Yeah. I mean, it's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:01 Keep it rolling. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1 00:30:03 Care. So that was a very long extended like tangent about X-Men Oh yeah. Um, onto my second hot take. All right. So we don't want this to get too long and we've got a lot more to talk about. So, uh, we are gonna end this episode and continue with a part two. Ooh. Anyway, I'm Brian
Speaker 2 00:30:25 And I'm
Speaker 1 00:30:25 Slippery. And this is Snorkeling with Narwhals
Speaker 2 00:30:28 For more of Brian's terrible Takes
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